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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist among us and

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sometimes they win

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of cryptids in the

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unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare i think you're

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of fans of monsters

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and the unexplained i'm your host lon

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strickler and thanks for joining us

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so tonight phantoms of monsters radio

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presents zack starrick

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of the southern illinois

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monster hunters team

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they state that they hunt for creatures

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that inhabit or that are suspected to be

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migrating in or through southern

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illinois

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uh

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zach starrick is the team leader of simh

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he is also an interim pastor at warner

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hill free will baptist church as well as

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a base singer

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uh pro wrestler cryptozoologist for 17

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years outdoorsman and cattle rancher now

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we had two of his um

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we had two of his team that were

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supposed to join us tonight but they had

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zach will be here tonight but i'm quite

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sure we'll be able to

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we'll be able to talk about his about

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all the things that he's been involved

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with so zach thanks for coming on this

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evening

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pleasure to be here mr strickler it's an

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honor to be on the show and it's an

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honor to finally

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meet you and i am

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blessed man and i am blessed to be here

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so thanks for having me on yeah don't

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call me mister i'm already fueled enough

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uh

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so your team

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tell us a bit about your team what what

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what do you do how long have you been

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together

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and uh

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you know how do you go about

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investigating reports

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okay well to answer your first question

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you know it started off um

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with me and my brother

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seven years ago long before that

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are based out of a small town called

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crab orchard illinois

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harrisburg and mary and illinois very

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small town of less than 700 people

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we started off in everything i started

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out as a private independent researcher

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and everything

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for and for the first 10 years leading

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up to the southern illinois monster

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hunters inception

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i was a senior in high school

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getting ready to graduate and

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one my best friend and the other my

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cousin john

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and my best friend gunner we call

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affectionately call him doc because he's

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uh an actual medical doctor now um we uh

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they came to me

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and they're like are you serious about

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this kind of stuff and i said i am 100

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serious

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you know this is taking up

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about close to 10 years of my life

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um i do believe these creatures exist

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and they're like well we would if you'd

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have us on we have a interest in these

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my friend my best friend doc and my

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cousin john

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and the team has grown

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the past seven years and everything but

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we consist of six members

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and we all bring different things to the

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table you know we're like i said we're

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all god-fearing christians and

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everything uh three of us are actually

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ministers

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we comprise of occult researchers

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paranormal researchers historians

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outdoorsmen trappers hunters

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everything that you i believe you would

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to make up a good unit especially for

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you know researching and actually

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hunting for cryptids and everything and

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hunting for the truth of these things

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we go and as the old saying goes you

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know we're here

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to we as we've always said we're here to

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put a name on the nameless and explain

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the unexplainable um that's been our

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mission uh for the seven years that

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we've been going uh head on now

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uh gunner my best friend

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our tracker my cousin ben bishop

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our security gail lefone our occult

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researcher for thibodeau louisiana stacy

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coughlin

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rookie slash caller grady powell and

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how the other four came into the mix my

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brother has left the team here in recent

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years he's gone about his own path uh

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started his own research group and

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everything and sometimes we work in

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tandem

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command my cousin ben um he came onto

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the team here a little over a year ago

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brought a lot to the table as an

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outdoorsman and also he had been

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learning uh the technique of tracking

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all of his life

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and he brought a lot of not only the

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tracking knowledge but also crypto

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cryptozoology knowledge and paranormal

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knowledge to the table and he fit right

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our security gail lefone um he's been on

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the team now uh next month will be a

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year that he has been a part of the unit

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he brings um

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of outdoor experience

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survival trapping hunting tracking

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occult researcher stacy coughlin

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the army

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he is um so thank you for your service

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grown up around uh you know hoodoo and

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voodoo culture

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uh so in southern louisiana and um

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he brings a lot to the table along with

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he does pendulum work and map dowsing

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very lesser-known practice

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that you don't hear about every day and

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he did work for us

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doing energy work with his pendulum and

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uh joining the team

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and um he joined the team this year we

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took a vote we brought him in and

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everything and he's been a part of our

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operations ever since

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and then uh getting down to uh was we

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approximately call private powell

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he was actually one of my uh baseball

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players that i used to coach and

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while he was in high school baseball

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and he came to me one day after a

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practice and he saw me sitting in my

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truck and i was reading a book after

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practice and i'd always see the boys

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i have a little bit of an interest in

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that stuff myself and i said oh really

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he said yeah

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i said how strong about how strong are

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you about it and he says i'm kind of on

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the fence but i'm leaning more towards

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to being a believer of these things

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so he i brought him on and he start

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didn't even start out on the team he

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started out as my student my protege

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and i taught him you know everything i

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know he's learned more since he's joined

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the team here

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three four years ago

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being surrounded by all of this vast

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knowledge with that the other five

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members including myself bring to the

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table he's like a sponge i would give

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him books to read and study and

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everything and take notes on and they

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would be you know anywhere from an inch

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to two and a half three inches thick and

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he would be handing them to me at the

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end of the week saying all right give me

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another one

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and so that's how you know that's how i

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started you know reading books watching

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film watching documentaries reading

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reports that's how i started out so

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that's how i started him out and come

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this august he will be officially

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graduating as uh the team rookie uh rank

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of the team and um but that makes up the

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uh southern illinois monster hunters um

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and then i am the team

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leader as long as well as um the lead

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field the researcher i'm the head

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historian of the group uh doc uh my best

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friend gunner he is the

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uh one of the head researchers in my

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second in command

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and um

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that's what makes up the southern

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illinois monster hunters

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and what we do

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for our area to answer the second part

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of your question i'm sorry if i'm a

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little long-winded

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um he we go out and you know we like to

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call ourselves we don't really we just

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came up with the name monster hunters

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because we hunt for quote-unquote

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modern-day monsters you know these

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creatures that have been seen

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throughout throughout the the 1900s on

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into the 21st century

289
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uh you know we are hunting for the truth

290
00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:49,760
uh from behind these things whether if

291
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they are

292
00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:53,440
misidentified misinterpreted or if

293
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they're just straight out lies

294
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that is what we're doing and we also

295
00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:00,560
call ourselves sort of a consultation

296
00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:02,320
for people that don't know what they

297
00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:04,560
could be dealing with

298
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like for example there was a woman up in

299
00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:09,839
buckner illinois just in the next county

300
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north of here

301
00:12:17,110 --> 00:12:13,920
that she said that there was a dog man

302
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that was coming up around her home and

303
00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,760
it was really upsetting her

304
00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:21,839
and scaring her kids

305
00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,880
and really making her two pit bulls very

306
00:12:29,509 --> 00:12:26,160
aggressive

307
00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:29,519
and she says i just want this thing gone

308
00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:31,680
and she said but i don't want to kill it

309
00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:33,120
i said well

310
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the way we do it with uh other canines

311
00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:39,760
like coyotes or even neighborhood

312
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domestic dogs if they start coming

313
00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:44,639
around our place we take rags and we

314
00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,720
soak them in ammonia and we'll hang them

315
00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:48,880
in the trees and we'll take moth balls

316
00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:53,440
and we'll pile them up every so often um

317
00:13:00,470 --> 00:12:56,560
in yardage-wise and that usually works

318
00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:00,480
and she did that and it actually

319
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uh i guess you could say kept this thing

320
00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:05,360
off of her property

321
00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:09,200
and she hasn't seen or had any kind of

322
00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:11,360
interaction with this thing since

323
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so that's kind of what we do uh we do

324
00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:14,720
that

325
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and

326
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you know that we investigate mysterious

327
00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:20,480
animal killings

328
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this woman she found

329
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a calf head

330
00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:27,760
in her yard and she believed the cat

331
00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:30,079
came from a farm that was about maybe 10

332
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miles up the road

333
00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:34,880
and she found one of her dogs chewing on

334
00:13:39,189 --> 00:13:37,440
the head in the yard and i went and i

335
00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:39,199
looked at the dogs and they had the

336
00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,480
invisible uh electric fence collars on

337
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and i said is there an electric fence

338
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around here

339
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and she said yeah

340
00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,519
and she said my dogs know not to go

341
00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:51,279
outside of the yard

342
00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,000
and i looked at this um

343
00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:56,160
the calf head i examined it up close

344
00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:57,440
looking to see if there's any kind of

345
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like hat marks

346
00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:03,120
from a you know a hatchet or knife

347
00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:06,240
or you know any kind of saw blade and

348
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:08,160
there was none whatsoever it was just

349
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like this cav's head was just ripped off

350
00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:12,079
of its actual body

351
00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:12,959
and

352
00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:17,279
mysterious animal killings were a

353
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,399
consultation for people you know that

354
00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,480
don't know how to handle this and we try

355
00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:24,399
our best at it we don't claim to be

356
00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:27,680
experts whatsoever and um

357
00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:28,560
that's

358
00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:31,360
basically what we do we try to put a

359
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:33,279
name on the nameless explain the

360
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:36,079
unexplainable and we try to separate the

361
00:14:42,870 --> 00:14:39,440
truth from the cr from the bull crap

362
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:42,880
that's what we do as a team

363
00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:44,160
so um

364
00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,600
you and your team have been looking into

365
00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:49,519
i don't know if you want to call it an

366
00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:51,360
old sighting it's something that

367
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,000
happened that started being brought up

368
00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:55,839
back in the 70s

369
00:15:01,030 --> 00:14:58,880
but this enfield horror case

370
00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:01,040
can you kind of describe

371
00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:01,760
the

372
00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:06,639
what people have seen and reported and

373
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:13,990
well you know leading uh i

374
00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,600
believe you know

375
00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:17,120
you know from what a lot of people are

376
00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:20,320
telling me i am the first person to come

377
00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:21,519
forward

378
00:15:26,949 --> 00:15:22,240
in

379
00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:26,959
creature the last time it was seen was

380
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:30,800
back in 1972 and it was seen for

381
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:33,519
um approximately 11 days and it was seen

382
00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,360
by eight people

383
00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:37,199
and that's not even counting the people

384
00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:39,040
that didn't come forward to seeing this

385
00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:40,720
thing right

386
00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:45,440
and it just showed up one night um on a

387
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:48,720
resident of enfield's doorstep literally

388
00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:51,920
um henry mcdaniel and his wife were in

389
00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:56,000
the town of fairfield about uh maybe 20

390
00:16:00,790 --> 00:15:58,320
30 miles north of enfield getting

391
00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:00,800
groceries and they left their kids henry

392
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:04,000
jr and their daughter lilith

393
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:05,519
down at the house

394
00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:07,120
because they were of age and you know

395
00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:09,279
this was back then and everything small

396
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:12,160
town usa they really didn't have much to

397
00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:13,920
worry about so they left their kids home

398
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:15,600
by themselves

399
00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:16,959
well

400
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:20,079
they thought that there was somebody

401
00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:23,519
or a dog scratching at the door

402
00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:25,519
and they opened the door

403
00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:28,240
and there this thing was standing right

404
00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:31,519
there on the front porch in the doorway

405
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,399
uh

406
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:34,320
looking at them

407
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,880
and they went and

408
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:38,000
uh

409
00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:41,199
attempted to go and they shut the door

410
00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:43,120
through the deadbolt and they started

411
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:44,800
going through the house and locking all

412
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:47,839
the windows and pulling the drapes to

413
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:50,480
and then they could hear this thing over

414
00:16:55,990 --> 00:16:54,000
by this window unit this ac window unit

415
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,000
and they could see that thing shaking

416
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:58,560
inside the window

417
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,639
and they're screaming at this thing to

418
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,320
go away and they could hear this thing

419
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,559
growling outside the window

420
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:06,640
pulling on the ac unit trying to get it

421
00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,720
to come out of the window

422
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:10,400
and so

423
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:11,439
they

424
00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:16,240
uh paris to come home

425
00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:18,559
and then finally they hear their dad uh

426
00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:21,520
and mother coming in the back door

427
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,400
and

428
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:25,280
they ran to their parents in a

429
00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:27,039
fit of distress

430
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:29,039
and their parents uh

431
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:32,000
didn't buy what they said that they saw

432
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,240
and they heard a scratching at the door

433
00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:36,880
and henry mcdaniel senior says well

434
00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:39,200
there's probably your monster now

435
00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:40,799
well he opened the door and lo and

436
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:43,440
behold there that thing was again

437
00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:44,960
and it made a

438
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:48,400
swipe at henry mcdaniel senior and henry

439
00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:51,360
mcdaniel seniors shut the door this man

440
00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:54,640
had it was an uh uh was an active combat

441
00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:55,600
veteran

442
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:58,320
and he went and he

443
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,799
slammed the door and was stumbling to

444
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:03,200
get to his 22 pistol

445
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:05,039
and his flashlight

446
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:06,960
and he threw open the door

447
00:18:11,830 --> 00:18:08,640
and shined a flashlight and there this

448
00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:11,840
thing was out in his front yard and he

449
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:13,679
pulled his pistol up and he shot that

450
00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:16,400
this thing six times and he heard the

451
00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:18,240
thing let out a uh

452
00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:19,919
squall

453
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:22,080
and this thing he said

454
00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:24,799
leaped not ran leaped

455
00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:28,400
75 feet in three leaps

456
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,440
and that was the first encounter

457
00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:33,760
with the infield monster the last

458
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:36,880
encounter happened around 3 a.m about 11

459
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,280
days later when henry mcdaniel's

460
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,200
neighbor's dogs were raising up all

461
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,960
kinds of price at three o'clock in the

462
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,000
morning

463
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:46,080
and he got up out of bed and he went out

464
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,360
to his uh front window in his front room

465
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:51,120
and he looked out the window and there

466
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,200
this thing was navigating the train

467
00:18:56,789 --> 00:18:55,440
tracks in front of his house

468
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,799
and

469
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,039
it wasn't like it was in any kind of

470
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:01,440
hurry and this thing literally just took

471
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,919
off as the dogs

472
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,919
took off after it and that was the last

473
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:07,840
time this thing was actually ever seen

474
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:08,720
again

475
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:12,080
up until may of this year whenever i

476
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:13,760
encountered the creature

477
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:16,160
and bear in mind i'd read about this

478
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:19,440
creature for 16 17 years since i first

479
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:21,520
read about it from my cousin bruce

480
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,880
klein's

481
00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:24,640
hauntings and mysteries of southern

482
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:25,760
illinois

483
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:28,720
and it's a sort of a paranormal travel

484
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,640
guide as he puts it

485
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:32,000
and

486
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:34,720
i didn't put no stock in it there had

487
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,679
been so many you know

488
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,440
people saying that was probably a

489
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:41,039
kangaroo

490
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:44,160
or a chimpanzee that had escaped

491
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:46,720
from a circus train or a zoo or

492
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,160
something

493
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:50,000
and you know

494
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:51,840
like that old saying is seeing is

495
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,480
believing well i believe

496
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:56,080
what i saw

497
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:57,039
and

498
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,000
i'll set the scene for you i was still

499
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:02,720
working down on the river and everything

500
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:05,280
and it was supposed to rain the next day

501
00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:07,679
and i'd brought my bow fishing rig with

502
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:08,880
me

503
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:12,080
and uh i said what's the plan for work

504
00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,679
tomorrow boss and he says well it's

505
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:15,440
supposed to rain tomorrow take the day

506
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:16,960
off and i said okay i'll see you

507
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:19,440
thursday i'm going fishing

508
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,840
so i drove three hours across the state

509
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:23,679
to the wabash river

510
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:26,240
to go uh fishing

511
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:29,039
and i was out there for maybe two or

512
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,200
three hours after i drove for three

513
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,960
hours uh

514
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,760
catching garfish for bait

515
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:37,600
and um

516
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,400
i

517
00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:40,559
got a call from my

518
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,559
uh mother and then my fiancee and

519
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,159
they're like well when you coming home

520
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,919
and i said i'll be home here in a little

521
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,600
bit just give me some time the

522
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,200
mosquitoes are starting to eat me up so

523
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,520
i'll be along shortly so maybe about two

524
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:53,200
hours from now

525
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:56,159
and i loaded up my stuff and i um

526
00:21:01,350 --> 00:21:00,240
went back uh towards 40 route 45

527
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,360
and

528
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:03,360
i've been driving i started driving

529
00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:06,559
about eight o'clock and about 8 45

530
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:09,440
i came through infield illinois

531
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,919
and very small town and literally at

532
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:13,919
night they rolled the sidewalk up there

533
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,880
was not a soul alive in infield after

534
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,480
dark whenever i went through town that

535
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:19,840
night right

536
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:20,880
and

537
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,640
north city

538
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:28,320
and there's a junction

539
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:31,600
and it's where route 14 and route 45

540
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,799
intersect going north south east west

541
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,440
and i seen a sign on the road that said

542
00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:39,760
stop sign ahead so i started to slow

543
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,360
down everything

544
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,000
and i had my high beams on because the

545
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:46,480
farmers were planting that night

546
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,440
and

547
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,600
uh if the farmers are planting usually

548
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,799
the deer will be moving because they're

549
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,320
going to be getting jumped up out of the

550
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,000
woods and out of the fields

551
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:56,000
and so i had my high beams on watching

552
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,200
for deer

553
00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,679
and i'm coming up to the stop sign and

554
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,000
i'm driving here and i'm driving the

555
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:03,760
same vehicle that i'm sitting in right

556
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,600
now my my 2003 ford ranger and it's

557
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:09,360
regular stock there's nothing fancy

558
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,039
smashy to it at all it's basic and

559
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:15,440
i see right here on the right side of my

560
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:16,640
windshield

561
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,280
i see a shadow coming behind williams

562
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:21,200
insurance house

563
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:23,520
because there was a um

564
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,640
a street light at that intersection and

565
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,480
all like and it's shown over the back of

566
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,480
the insurance house but you it still

567
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,640
cast a shadow from the building itself

568
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,480
and this thing was running inside of the

569
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:36,080
shadow of the building

570
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:37,760
and i

571
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,280
started to slow down because i thought

572
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,039
it could have been a fawn

573
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,120
a little baby deer

574
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,919
and i slowed down to about maybe 20 mile

575
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:46,960
an hour

576
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,919
and i'm coasting up on the stop sign

577
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,919
and this thing comes down

578
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:54,240
goes down in the ditch comes back up out

579
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:55,280
of the ditch

580
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,240
runs across the two lane blacktop

581
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:00,799
down in the ditch on the other side back

582
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,720
up and out and it took off across the

583
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:04,799
field and it was gone

584
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:09,679
and i stopped and i carry a uh 700 lumen

585
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,640
uh

586
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:13,200
spotlight for a headlamp that i had with

587
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,559
me that night that i was using while i

588
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,000
was garfishing

589
00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,159
i kicked that thing on and i shone it

590
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,240
right outside of my window

591
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,080
and i couldn't and i could span that

592
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:24,080
field with that light and i couldn't

593
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,159
even find this thing

594
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:28,000
and you know

595
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:31,200
i got uh in short of a time of what i

596
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,520
saw this thing i got a pretty decent

597
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,120
amount of detail

598
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,039
from just seeing this thing run across

599
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:41,120
in front of my truck

600
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,480
this thing

601
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,000
had to have been

602
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:46,080
between three and a half to four feet

603
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,880
tall

604
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,200
across the top of the back

605
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:52,000
it had dark gray

606
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:55,600
elephant uh like like wet elephant skin

607
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:57,279
color to it

608
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,080
and

609
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:00,400
it had when my it ran in front of my

610
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,200
headlights it you could see a sort of a

611
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,960
pinkish eye glow

612
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,640
from this thing

613
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:08,400
it had

614
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:12,880
limbs

615
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:16,880
uh kind of like ours and it was had its

616
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:19,760
arms and its hands drawn up like this

617
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,640
while it was running on two feet

618
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:24,880
and then this thing has been reported to

619
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,240
have like a tripod style uh leg

620
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,960
arraignment arrangement and right where

621
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:33,200
your tailbone would be is about where

622
00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:36,400
this thing's uh back leg was coming out

623
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,159
but it had its leg drawn up like this

624
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,640
whenever it ran across that road kind of

625
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,279
like opossum does with its tail

626
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,120
as straight up in the air with a little

627
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,360
bit of a curve to it

628
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,640
and

629
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:52,720
i mean this thing had a

630
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,320
like an alligator's side style head

631
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,799
but it had what we call a pug nose on it

632
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:00,480
which means a short snap

633
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:03,600
so it had the head like an alligator but

634
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,799
the snor snout was a little bit shorter

635
00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:07,679
and

636
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,320
this thing just went came across there

637
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:12,080
just boogity boogity boogity across the

638
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,039
road

639
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:15,679
and it hit the field and it was gone

640
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:18,960
and i and i sat there at that stop sign

641
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,360
for about a good two and a half minutes

642
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,960
i should literally shut the car the

643
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,320
truck off

644
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:26,559
and at this point i'm

645
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,240
you know the adrenaline's going and i am

646
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:32,320
trying to calm myself down and i called

647
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,000
my mother

648
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,520
and i said mom you're not going to

649
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:37,200
believe this and she goes what's wrong

650
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:40,240
are you okay and i said no i'm fine

651
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,360
but i i swears god is my witness i saw

652
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,360
the enfield monster

653
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,679
and i described what i just described to

654
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:48,640
you

655
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,640
and i told her i said mom it looked kind

656
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,360
of like a dinosaur

657
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,640
and

658
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,760
she

659
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,360
talked me down calmed me down the

660
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,440
adrenaline rush went away

661
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,559
and then i uh continued on

662
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:04,720
my journey back to the house

663
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:06,880
and then i told my team whenever i got

664
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,360
back to the house of what i saw

665
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,640
and you know i put it out on facebook

666
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,640
that same night

667
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:16,960
and i'm like you know the if this thing

668
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,559
is still around or is back the public

669
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,799
needs to know that this thing is back

670
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,760
and

671
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:25,520
i put it out there

672
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,559
and that's how shannon legrow uh jake uh

673
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,760
guerra

674
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:32,880
and

675
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:43,760
you know

676
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,240
this thing i do believe that the infield

677
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,200
monster is alive and well

678
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,320
in white county illinois

679
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,919
do you um

680
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:55,840
now you haven't heard of anybody else

681
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:57,360
lately uh

682
00:27:03,110 --> 00:26:59,279
seeing this thing have you

683
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,120
no and i have i have been monitoring any

684
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,000
kind of reports on you know social media

685
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,000
that i would find any kind of newspaper

686
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,159
articles that would come up online

687
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:12,640
regarding this thing in current day

688
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,400
current uh current uh present day and i

689
00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,320
to this day i still have not if there

690
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,919
are people seeing it they're not coming

691
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:21,840
forward right

692
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,640
interesting

693
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:25,279
[Music]

694
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,240
you know the fact that you saw it

695
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,960
so many years after it was

696
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,480
last reported

697
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,720
i tend to believe other people have seen

698
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,240
it and just haven't reported you know

699
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,080
that's not unusual

700
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,480
right and you know yeah

701
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,640
it's it's small like i said it's small

702
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,360
town usa in anfield everybody who's

703
00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:47,440
anybody knows everybody

704
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,600
and everybody knows your business and a

705
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:51,919
lot of them are well respected big time

706
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,640
farmering uh companies up there and

707
00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:56,640
folks that are well respected members of

708
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,880
their community that i believe that they

709
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,720
are if they are seeing this thing that

710
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,399
they are keeping it to themselves for

711
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,320
fear of ridicule and it might hurt their

712
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,159
business because people are like why

713
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:07,919
would i want to go and buy or do

714
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,389
uh you know vincent made a good point uh

715
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,880
did you guys look for tracks later on or

716
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,240
have you been up there looking for

717
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,559
tracks or any type of other

718
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,159
physical evidence

719
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,279
i have not been back since uh it's just

720
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,360
been you know so busy with work and not

721
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,640
only that with gas being so high

722
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,600
um

723
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,480
with i mean it's dropping now but back

724
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:37,919
then it was

725
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,200
right around like 487 a gallon and it's

726
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,640
getting closer to 399 a gallon now but

727
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,640
here's the thing why i did not get out

728
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,720
of my truck and everything is because i

729
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:51,200
all i had other than my bow fishing rig

730
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,440
in the bed of my truck it was a pocket

731
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,559
knife i didn't have a side arm or a long

732
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:59,600
long arm with me and what's to say this

733
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,559
thing

734
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,480
wouldn't have meant to do me any kind of

735
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,120
harm and not only that it was late at

736
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:08,159
night and you know these are out there

737
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:10,880
it's wide open country and that is

738
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,840
property that belongs to big name farmer

739
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,679
corporations

740
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,320
those places are monitored by cameras

741
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,039
and uh people out doing night patrols

742
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:23,760
and all of that it's heavily

743
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:27,600
policed uh with uh with uh law the law

744
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,799
patrols

745
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:31,520
i was not in the mood to either get

746
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,760
arrested for trespassing

747
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:35,760
get attacked by this creature if it

748
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,120
decided to double back on me oh and i

749
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,880
didn't feel like getting shot by a

750
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,880
property owner or having a gun put in my

751
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,320
face

752
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,399
i was not in the mood to be charged with

753
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,080
trespassing

754
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:50,720
oh wow i don't blame you

755
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,720
um

756
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:54,559
and any kind of tracks that would have

757
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,279
been there even if i went back the next

758
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,760
day or the next two days they would have

759
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,320
been washed away because like i said the

760
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,399
next day after that next day there was a

761
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,320
big front coming in it came a torrential

762
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,320
downpour the next day and all of those

763
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:10,480
tracks would have got washed away right

764
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:11,919
right

765
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,159
so did you i mean what you saw did it um

766
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,399
did it actually

767
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:20,640
mimic what others had reported back in

768
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,440
the 70s yes uh i i i mean every bit of

769
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:27,360
it from the reports i've read and the

770
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:30,159
stories i've heard regarding this thing

771
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,120
um

772
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,960
it it did and but here's the thing like

773
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:36,720
some of the pictures that we've seen

774
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:39,600
here on the show already i they did not

775
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:42,480
look anything like that white one at all

776
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,960
or the colorized cartoon version i

777
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,480
believe those are just overly

778
00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:48,880
embellished to look more menacing right

779
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:51,279
this thing it was you know

780
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,360
i like i told jake guerra um this thing

781
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,080
did not have any kind of body hair on it

782
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,159
because i have pretty powerful high

783
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,880
beams on my truck and like i i jokingly

784
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,200
say i turn my high beams on i can give

785
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,600
you an x-ray that's how powerful these

786
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:08,799
things are

787
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,320
and i had my windows down on this

788
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,919
truck because my air conditioner has

789
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:16,000
been busted for a while

790
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,159
and i was slowed down and everything and

791
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:20,000
over even over the hum of the engine

792
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,279
with this thing running across the

793
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,120
two-lane blacktop you could hear the

794
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:24,799
claws on its feet ticking on the

795
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,039
blacktop is that right

796
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:29,200
yes

797
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,039
and there's been so many

798
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:33,360
uh theories on what this creature could

799
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,320
actually be yeah some some people say

800
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,120
it's uh demonic which i do not believe

801
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,519
at all because you know you don't have

802
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:44,320
to be an empath a clairvoyant or

803
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,519
a medium or psychic whichever you want

804
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:48,880
to claim to be

805
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,279
to tell if there is something with ill

806
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,600
intent in its heart you can get that

807
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:56,000
feeling just away from that primal

808
00:32:02,389 --> 00:31:59,360
instinct that we have from our ancestors

809
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:02,399
you know i did not detect any kind of

810
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:09,430
malcontent or malevolent um

811
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:12,080
intent with this thing i mean

812
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,279
if anything i detected fear because i

813
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:17,679
feel like them farmers out planting

814
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,200
their crops and spraying their crops

815
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,039
might have jumped this thing off and it

816
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,279
was running to get away because if this

817
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,720
thing uh wasn't scared of people i

818
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:28,159
believe that it would have stopped in

819
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,000
front of my truck at least to look at me

820
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,320
for at least half a second and then keep

821
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,640
on going it just kept going and it never

822
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,960
even looked my way it just kept on going

823
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,360
straight shot

824
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:42,000
and then some people say it could be an

825
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,519
extraterrestrial

826
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:45,360
i'm a little bit on board with that

827
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:46,399
because

828
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:49,679
this thing uh has been seen in an area

829
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,799
where there has been an abundance of ufo

830
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:55,279
reports southern illinois is a hotbed

831
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,440
form uh you know back in 2000 we had a

832
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:01,760
triangle shaped ufo the size of a

833
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:06,480
football field that was seen in by the

834
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,840
population of five different towns oh in

835
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:12,000
less than an hour and a half

836
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,080
you know then here back in 2017

837
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,440
there was a

838
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:19,360
red light ufo

839
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:20,880
that went

840
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,399
over the mississippi river valley and

841
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,799
thousands of people saw it

842
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:28,480
and then here

843
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,080
um back in 2018 my ex-girlfriend and me

844
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,320
were sitting out here in my driveway

845
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,640
just talking sitting on the tailgate and

846
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:39,279
i look up over here in the north sky

847
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:42,880
and i'm seeing a crap going through the

848
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,679
air that had like white lights but they

849
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,240
weren't like you know a light here a

850
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,080
light there a light there a light over

851
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,480
here they were all in a straight equally

852
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,960
spaced straight line

853
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:56,799
going across the sky

854
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,399
and you could see this thing as it was

855
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:00,640
ascending and then when it leveled out

856
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:04,000
it tilted and all of those

857
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,600
same lights

858
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:07,279
leveled out with the craft and

859
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:09,280
everything it ain't like they came up at

860
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,440
a curve or anything they just went and

861
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,359
angled out and just leveled out like you

862
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:15,599
do a regular uh

863
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,109
i don't know what your theories are what

864
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:22,960
your thoughts are on interdimensional

865
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:24,079
beings

866
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,599
but do you think this there's a

867
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:28,399
possibility that this being may be able

868
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,760
to come in and out of our reality

869
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,720
well

870
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,399
i'll just i

871
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,280
really don't know you know what to think

872
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,599
about what this thing is you know it's

873
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:41,919
the world where we're still discovering

874
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:44,480
new things about our universe

875
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:45,599
daily

876
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,800
and we are discovering new uh

877
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:49,760
uh

878
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:52,240
plant life and animals

879
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,919
uh you know year daily as it goes and

880
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:57,520
everything you know we learn something

881
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:00,000
new every day what this thing could be i

882
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,960
have no clue as of yet

883
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,640
so i wouldn't know what to tell you long

884
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,480
well the reason i asked that is you know

885
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,560
we we've been investigating a lot of

886
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,520
different things over the years and uh

887
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:13,920
but and we've suspected that this may be

888
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,400
the case in some some of these creatures

889
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,000
some of these cryptids

890
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:20,160
uh especially what's going on in chicago

891
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:21,839
with the winged humanoids

892
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,079
uh so that's why i wanted to ask you i

893
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,000
just wanted to get your idea you know

894
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:27,839
what you thought it would be you know

895
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,720
you live in an area

896
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:31,920
that

897
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,880
has had a lot of cryptic activity i mean

898
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:36,320
and you know that

899
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,800
but for the audience i mean i have

900
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,000
gotten

901
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,320
some pretty strange bigfoot reports over

902
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:44,480
the years in southern illinois and as

903
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:45,920
well

904
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,160
more recently we've had some pretty

905
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,800
interesting uh winged humanoid sightings

906
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,079
as well

907
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:53,599
so uh

908
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:57,440
it is a heavy area heavy concentration

909
00:36:01,589 --> 00:36:00,480
i believe ken gerhard called it a window

910
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:01,599
state

911
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,240
maybe yeah for all of these

912
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:06,640
different types as i put it a cornucopia

913
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,280
of cryptids in the last in the just in

914
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,119
the last hundred years

915
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,119
you know there has been the mad gasser

916
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,000
of my tune the big muddy monster you

917
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,800
know the infield horror

918
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:21,119
nellie the lion the phantom panther

919
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:25,520
dog man um the hamp mine monster

920
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,000
the list goes on and on and we even had

921
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:29,680
mothman reports

922
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:33,200
here in the last 10 years

923
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,680
from when the leap day tornado happened

924
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,240
back here in 2012

925
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,079
in the months leading up to the leap day

926
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,920
tornado that killed eight people there

927
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:44,720
was reports of mothman cited uh in and

928
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,030
yeah so you know i mean

929
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,520
i mean i you go and you look at it and

930
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,599
everything one of my team members stacy

931
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,440
coughlin brought up to me because him

932
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,880
and me talk all kinds of stuff but you

933
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,040
know i'm a i'm a preacher and everything

934
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:02,960
but you know i try to keep i

935
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:04,160
i believe

936
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:06,320
god exists and everything but you know i

937
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,920
go and i look at other things and

938
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:09,680
everything

939
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:11,920
you know you look at

940
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:14,960
illinois and you overlook overlaid on a

941
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,520
map of where ley lines are there is a

942
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:20,480
major ley line running right along

943
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,720
southern illinois running directly

944
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:25,200
through it

945
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:27,760
and you know a lot of people have these

946
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,240
theories about these ley lines being uh

947
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:32,320
energy highways for

948
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,640
everything from uh from uh physical

949
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:38,720
to paranormal

950
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,599
and

951
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,599
i you know i just believe that that may

952
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,200
have something to do with all these

953
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:44,800
cryptids being seen

954
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,560
within you know

955
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:48,960
two hours of each other

956
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:52,800
well you know i do believe geology

957
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:56,240
and uh past incidents have a lot to do

958
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,839
with uh

959
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,000
why certain cryptid

960
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:02,400
areas are heavy encrypted sightings

961
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,240
illinois definitely is one of them it's

962
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:07,040
well known for winged being sightings

963
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:08,480
throughout the state

964
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,440
as well as bigfoot and um of course here

965
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,000
in pennsylvania we've got a plethora of

966
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,599
sightings of a lot of different things

967
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,720
as well

968
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,880
uh and it seems like you know it seems

969
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:20,800
like it's has to do with maybe the

970
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:22,160
geology

971
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,280
and

972
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,119
some of the incidents that had occurred

973
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,400
there

974
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,160
you know previously

975
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:30,079
i mean that's my theory you know the

976
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,520
upcoming i would

977
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,520
yeah the upper midwest is really heavy

978
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:35,839
with a lot of cryptid activity anyway

979
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,560
indiana illinois wisconsin even down

980
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:40,400
into missouri

981
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,359
very heavy encrypted activity

982
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,160
well i mean you look at all this you

983
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:48,160
know you look at

984
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,760
you don't you don't have to even look at

985
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,680
a topographical map

986
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,240
just look at a map of how all the rivers

987
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:56,560
feed into the mississippi we've got all

988
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,800
these water sources and everything and

989
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,520
then just here in southern illinois

990
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:02,880
from

991
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:05,920
mount vernon illinois down to

992
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,599
uh golconda and and cairo illinois you

993
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,960
will find swamps you will find planes

994
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,720
you will find

995
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:17,520
wide open spaces heavily wooded areas

996
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:21,440
you will find ponds creeks lakes

997
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:24,880
orchards cattle farms all

998
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,160
abundance of livestock and wildlife this

999
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,720
thing is what i call is a smelting pot

1000
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:33,680
for different uh biomes

1001
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:34,560
right

1002
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,359
yeah

1003
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,760
there's a lot of a lot of variables for

1004
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,240
it to hide to live to feed

1005
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:42,960
and absolutely it does you know it is an

1006
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,040
area where there's you know

1007
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:47,599
something like that can can survive very

1008
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:52,870
i agree so um

1009
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:55,359
what other uh what other reports and

1010
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,720
what other

1011
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:58,640
investigations have you and your team

1012
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,920
been involved with that are of interest

1013
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:04,079
well i mean

1014
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,200
here

1015
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:06,640
this past

1016
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:08,560
may of last year

1017
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:12,800
we investigated a report of a

1018
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,800
uh somewhat territorially aggressive uh

1019
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,920
bigfoot

1020
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,800
report uh there's this um

1021
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,319
uh it was actually a friend of our

1022
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:25,200
tracker ben my cousin

1023
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,000
and

1024
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,079
we he told me about it

1025
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:30,400
and he was actually there

1026
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,400
for the uh

1027
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:34,880
first two or three actual encounters

1028
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:37,280
that happened so this was kind of his

1029
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:39,359
investigation and i was just there as

1030
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,640
backup

1031
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:43,440
and this thing had been seen they were

1032
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,240
out coyote hunting one night

1033
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:47,599
and

1034
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:52,560
they're outside just uh screwing around

1035
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:54,160
he showed me a video where they were

1036
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,960
actually out doing fire dancing with the

1037
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,560
fire baton

1038
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,560
and

1039
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,720
everything just got dead quiet next

1040
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:04,480
thing you know they heard this big

1041
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,280
wailing yell come out of these pine

1042
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,040
trees that was out behind the house

1043
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:11,440
about a hundred yards away

1044
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:13,599
and they were all

1045
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,480
uh that the next time we're all sitting

1046
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:18,560
out on the front porch just hanging out

1047
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:21,920
and talking and they heard a corridor

1048
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,160
slam and they heard something take off

1049
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,720
into the woods well everybody that was

1050
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,359
there because this this house sits back

1051
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:31,680
down a half mile

1052
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,200
uh down this one lane road and

1053
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,880
if you don't know

1054
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,960
where the house is or even where the

1055
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:40,480
driveway is because the driveway is not

1056
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,440
marked it just looks like a back road

1057
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,040
if you don't know where this place is

1058
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,040
you're not going to find it

1059
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:50,319
they heard a car door slam

1060
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:51,200
and

1061
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:55,119
somebody's down there messing around

1062
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:56,720
with my truck

1063
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:00,079
and he went down there to see and no he

1064
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,520
kept his

1065
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:04,480
lunch pail in the back seat of his truck

1066
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:07,280
and his lunch pail had been dumped out

1067
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,079
and all the contents that were torn into

1068
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:12,079
sandwich wrappers chip

1069
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,240
bags um there was a

1070
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,359
bottle of soda that had been uncourt

1071
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:22,240
and was uh pouring out over the seat and

1072
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,000
while he's out there they're all sitting

1073
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,440
out there and they said what did you

1074
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,280
find down there

1075
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,359
and about that time as he's walking back

1076
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,839
a 10 foot long limb

1077
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,079
that's about as big as a coffee can they

1078
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,400
said came flying out of the trees you

1079
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,400
could hear it flying through the canopy

1080
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:40,480
and it landed right out in the middle of

1081
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:41,359
the

1082
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,359
what this thing is

1083
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,720
and they said they could see the

1084
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,560
silhouette of this

1085
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:59,040
bigfoot inside the tree line

1086
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,560
walking through the trees they could

1087
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,079
actually see the silhouette of this

1088
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:03,920
thing and this thing would affect the

1089
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:06,800
behavior of the wife's dogs

1090
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,200
like they got this pit bull boxer mix

1091
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,359
that's i've played with this dog i've

1092
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:14,079
loved this dog biggest sweetheart you'd

1093
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,470
well he seems to be buffering

1094
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:26,079
i hope we didn't lose him and get him

1095
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,910
so i hope he gets come on so i'm working

1096
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:40,400
i'm working hey guys i'm working on it

1097
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,920
right now i think we just dropped him

1098
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:43,920
off for a second okay i'll be right back

1099
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:51,030
well anyway

1100
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:52,240
uh

1101
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,200
like zach saying i mean this is an area

1102
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,800
that i've been interested in for a lot

1103
00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:58,720
of years i mean we've gotten reports i

1104
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:01,280
know i've gotten

1105
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,640
at least three or four reports of

1106
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,960
wing humanoids

1107
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,079
diving onto towards cars on highways

1108
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,440
down in southern illinois you know

1109
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,200
coming across southern illinois coming

1110
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,880
from st louis

1111
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,160
and uh

1112
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,480
i don't know what the hell people are

1113
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,319
seeing but uh it's very similar to a lot

1114
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:22,720
of other settings we've had

1115
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:26,640
so um you know this area it does have a

1116
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:29,200
lot of things going on around it

1117
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:30,079
uh

1118
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:34,880
bigfoot setting reports

1119
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:37,680
from shawnee national forest

1120
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,599
which is in southern illinois uh and uh

1121
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:43,839
vince is going to be investigating that

1122
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,160
carter bouchard also

1123
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:49,040
talked about uh going in there in there

1124
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,190
we're going to try to get some

1125
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,200
information try to get some you know try

1126
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,880
to talk to some witnesses there with

1127
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:01,040
that as well so i mean well we got a

1128
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,319
break here maybe i can give you an

1129
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,520
update on some things that have been

1130
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,599
going on here in pennsylvania

1131
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,000
uh

1132
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,240
we have been getting more dogman reports

1133
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,560
or upright canine reports

1134
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,800
uh i oh there he is

1135
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,359
see we bring him in ah

1136
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,520
i have no clue what happened

1137
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,280
looks like he just buffered out so i

1138
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:22,560
don't know

1139
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:25,760
liking what i'm saying they're trying to

1140
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,510
uh we never know

1141
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,920
okay so where did you lose me at

1142
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,160
uh just just i don't know you were

1143
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,240
talking about uh

1144
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,640
you talking about this bigfoot uh

1145
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,720
where you're seeing it in uh see the

1146
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:44,960
shadows of this thing

1147
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,599
yes um well getting back to what i was

1148
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,480
saying uh they saw

1149
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:53,119
this bigfoot's silhouette going through

1150
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,640
the trees

1151
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:56,880
and it was affecting this thing's

1152
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,079
presence was really upsetting uh the

1153
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:02,800
wife's dog and the property owner's

1154
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,200
wife's dog and the dog is a boxer pit

1155
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,680
bull mix breed and she is one of the

1156
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:10,079
biggest sweethearts you'll ever meet she

1157
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,079
sat in my lap and she thinks she's a lap

1158
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:15,680
dog of all things but this dog would get

1159
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,440
very territorial of this uh of this

1160
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,760
place that they live in the home

1161
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,040
and

1162
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:25,839
one night they were coming back uh from

1163
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,960
walmart from getting groceries and uh

1164
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,720
she took the dog with her she was there

1165
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,079
by herself

1166
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,480
and right as they're coming down the

1167
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,720
driveway to the house

1168
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,880
a whole bunch of deer they just come

1169
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:40,800
shooting across that

1170
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,119
gravel driveway of those that goes down

1171
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,800
the lane to the house

1172
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:47,280
and they were running i mean

1173
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,560
a firing on all cylinders wide open

1174
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,200
and about that time the dog who usually

1175
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,280
sits in the backseat or in the pasture

1176
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:57,760
seat crawled over in her lap and started

1177
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,599
standing up in her lap looking out the

1178
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,599
window growling

1179
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:02,560
and

1180
00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:06,960
the dog usually will wait until she lets

1181
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,520
the dog out the passenger door the dog

1182
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,440
jumped over her and went out the

1183
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,319
driver's side door and got up like a

1184
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,200
police dog would right between her legs

1185
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,319
and walked her back to the house and the

1186
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:22,720
dog just sat there growling with its

1187
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:24,880
eyes fixed on those trees

1188
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,559
from where that bigfoot was seen a

1189
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,160
couple weeks prior

1190
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,000
and she called her uh

1191
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,480
called her husband and my cousin ben who

1192
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,960
were working in st louis at the time

1193
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,920
and

1194
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:37,839
she told him what's happening she says

1195
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,640
i've got a gun and her husband said

1196
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,760
pack up

1197
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,160
uh go quick go to your sisters we'll be

1198
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:46,480
home here in a little bit

1199
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:47,520
and

1200
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,440
almost three hours uh back down there to

1201
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,440
the house and they got there he said at

1202
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:00,160
about three o'clock in the morning

1203
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,040
and they're outside with flashlights and

1204
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,960
they could hear this thing out behind

1205
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,400
the house this time

1206
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,559
instead of in front of the house

1207
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,640
and the pine trees behind the house and

1208
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,119
they could hear this thing's foots falls

1209
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,280
in the pine trees and they went out

1210
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:17,040
there the next day and they found heel

1211
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:21,440
marks in the actual dirt

1212
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:24,880
and we invent and i took that as uh

1213
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,760
something worth it going after so we

1214
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:30,079
loaded up and we headed north

1215
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:31,119
and

1216
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,200
we actually found what was believed to

1217
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,079
have been a bedding area of these things

1218
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,240
and what it was was kind of like an

1219
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,280
a-frame style setup where there was a

1220
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:43,599
deadfall tree that had fell over and

1221
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,240
broke off halfway up fell over and there

1222
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,800
was limbs going up both sides of this

1223
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,880
sort of like an a-frame

1224
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,319
and

1225
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:54,720
you could see inside there where there

1226
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,480
was a a pretty good sized bed that

1227
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,640
that i pulled my tape measure out that

1228
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,359
measured about eight foot long and about

1229
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:05,280
four feet wide

1230
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:06,559
and

1231
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,079
uh

1232
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,440
ben who was taking perimeter pictures

1233
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:15,599
of the actual

1234
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,160
bedding area he went and he said i hear

1235
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,280
movement off to our left

1236
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,800
and i

1237
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,880
told everybody even our cameraman that

1238
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,280
was with us i said back out

1239
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,200
let's get out in the open where if they

1240
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:31,200
come running they got to come see uh

1241
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,160
come towards us and if if they looking

1242
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:37,359
for a fight we got a shotgun or rifle we

1243
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,160
can you know put them down if we have to

1244
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:41,760
so we backed out

1245
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,960
we walked back to the road across this

1246
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,240
bean field

1247
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,319
and we walk down the road

1248
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,440
back up to the house itself

1249
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,599
and stacy

1250
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,520
played a big part in that investigation

1251
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:56,880
because he does

1252
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,000
like i said energy work with a pendulum

1253
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,319
and dowsing rods that are unloaded

1254
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:05,359
dowsing rods and he goes and he'll print

1255
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,280
out a map a black and white 2d map of an

1256
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,040
area that we're investigating and he

1257
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:13,839
will work in real time with his pendulum

1258
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,400
and he can ask the pendulum yes or no

1259
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,440
uh questions or say which way is

1260
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,160
whatever is so and so going and it'll

1261
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,400
start swinging a certain way showing

1262
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,559
where this thing is or it'll circle in

1263
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,520
and point straight down like a magnet

1264
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,240
on the map of where this thing is

1265
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,160
and i've seen him do this

1266
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,880
in person before and it is phenomenal

1267
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,880
literally mind-blowing

1268
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,119
and he we were up on this hillside out

1269
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,280
behind the house overlooking the pine

1270
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:44,559
trees

1271
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:49,280
and he said there is uh a alpha bigfoot

1272
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,240
100 yards inside the tree line watching

1273
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,400
you guys on the hillside

1274
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:56,960
and i looked at ben and i said

1275
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:00,000
you stay here because you got the rifle

1276
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,240
and i'm going to go inside the tree line

1277
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,319
about 50 yards and try to flush this

1278
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,240
thing out if i can

1279
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,240
and you've got the camera and everything

1280
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,319
and i got a camera with me

1281
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,680
and we're gonna i want us to try and

1282
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,000
either get this thing on camera

1283
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,160
and i'm gonna go in you just cover me

1284
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,200
and i said if this thing comes after me

1285
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,040
you know fire shot in the air don't

1286
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,640
shoot him because i don't want to wound

1287
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,079
it

1288
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:26,000
and i walked down the hillside and i

1289
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,240
went 50 yards inside the tree line and i

1290
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:30,480
walked south to north to the north edge

1291
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,599
of the trees for about a hundred yards

1292
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,440
and then i came back out

1293
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,160
and he can and you can ask ben i came

1294
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,960
out and i was wide as a sheet i was

1295
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,079
nauseous

1296
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,720
and i had a very massive headache

1297
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:46,480
and

1298
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:51,359
it's in a three-part interview series on

1299
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:52,960
our youtube channel

1300
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,520
you can watch and look at me and tell

1301
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,240
that i was not feeling a hundred percent

1302
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,800
that i was very very sick

1303
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:02,240
and

1304
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:03,200
i

1305
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,040
where we were at back to her place

1306
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,119
and i stopped five or six times either

1307
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:17,599
throw up or dry heave

1308
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,920
and i got home and her and her

1309
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,599
grandmother were sitting at the table

1310
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:23,520
waiting on me and they said well how was

1311
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,800
it

1312
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,079
boom

1313
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,079
and i collapsed in the floor

1314
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:30,559
and they she finally brought me around

1315
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,440
and everything and i was in a bad state

1316
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:36,000
for about three weeks after this well

1317
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:37,440
the next day

1318
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,160
a little light went off in my head

1319
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,359
and i'd always heard about infrasound or

1320
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,040
the term zapping

1321
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,119
and i looked up you know what the

1322
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,280
infrasound was and i read what the

1323
00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:51,599
definition was and it's a low decibel

1324
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:53,200
sound wave

1325
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:54,640
that

1326
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,599
can affect human anatomy and well-being

1327
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:59,760
and i said what are the side effects of

1328
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,319
being affected by infrasound

1329
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,760
nausea

1330
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:05,520
headache

1331
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:08,960
stomach stomach cramps fatigue and

1332
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,760
prolonged exposure can cause cardiac

1333
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,079
arrest

1334
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,040
and i'm sitting there thinking

1335
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:19,280
uh oh

1336
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,230
so

1337
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,319
i've and you know i do believe that i

1338
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,400
was affected by ampersand and you know i

1339
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,480
don't even wish that all my worst enemy

1340
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,200
that was miserable jack

1341
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,280
yeah i've heard uh i heard a lot of

1342
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:38,000
people who have been infected by that

1343
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,520
um

1344
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,000
i mean i i think they use it for a lot

1345
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,160
of different things

1346
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:47,040
even even a communication type of thing

1347
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,160
where they

1348
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,720
try to get someone to back off without

1349
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:52,960
them doing any

1350
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,599
you know any uh threats or anything but

1351
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,920
i for defensive i think they

1352
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:00,000
they very well could have used it as

1353
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,520
defense mechanism against you absolutely

1354
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,440
well you know and here's the thing it's

1355
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,440
not just bigfoot

1356
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,440
you know that i'll use it because i can

1357
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:11,520
tell you firsthand from experience that

1358
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:14,640
i do know for a fact that i that a

1359
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,119
bigfoot i did use upper sound on me even

1360
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,359
though i didn't see it i felt it

1361
00:54:24,549 --> 00:54:20,640
you know

1362
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,559
big predators use it tigers lions rhinos

1363
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,760
elephants

1364
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:28,800
uh any kind of big cat uh or any kind of

1365
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,079
big mammal

1366
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,800
they can uh generate that and

1367
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,800
even it's been weaponized by our

1368
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,880
military

1369
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,200
and like i said it can it prolong the

1370
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:41,440
exposure to it can cause cardiac arrest

1371
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,480
and loss of control of your facilities

1372
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:45,920
absolutely

1373
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,119
interesting

1374
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,160
so um before we go here um

1375
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,079
zach i'd like for you to tell the folks

1376
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,559
how they can get in contact with you

1377
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,839
and uh what is in the future uh how to

1378
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:00,160
get ahold of you on your uh facebook

1379
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,440
page your

1380
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:03,680
uh your youtube channel and anywhere

1381
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:05,359
else they can find you

1382
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,319
well first of all you know um

1383
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:12,000
i have had a blast being on your show uh

1384
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,240
lon and uh i

1385
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:15,760
i do thank you

1386
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,240
uh all for going and um having me on

1387
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,160
places people can get a hold of me or

1388
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:24,160
follow me on social media

1389
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:25,599
um

1390
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,640
they can find me on my personal facebook

1391
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:30,880
zacderick

1392
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:32,480
they can find me there

1393
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,079
they can follow the southern illinois

1394
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,960
monster hunters on our facebook page as

1395
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:38,160
well

1396
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:42,079
and uh there's also the page for our

1397
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:43,760
documentary hunt for the shawnee

1398
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,119
sasquatch that is out for purchase right

1399
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,440
now on dvd and it's slowly working its

1400
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,240
way up to being streaming um you can go

1401
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,960
ahead and follow us there

1402
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,200
you can follow me on instagram at duke

1403
00:56:03,990 --> 00:55:59,520
randall official

1404
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:04,000
on twitter at dr outdoors2021

1405
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:07,200
you can follow my ministry page

1406
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:10,559
steric music ministries

1407
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it's uh i you know like i said i am a

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a pastor and uh i'm a servant of the

1409
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:18,559
lord

1410
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,680
you know to have encountered all that i

1411
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,920
have and everything that i've seen ralph

1412
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:27,760
waldo emerson

1413
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,480
uh said it best in a quote and he says i

1414
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:32,799
have uh all that i have seen

1415
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,760
uh from the creator um

1416
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:38,400
prepares me for all that i have uh yet

1417
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,160
to see is now i'm just summarizing a

1418
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:45,119
rough uh idea of what the quote actually

1419
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,079
was

1420
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,559
um you know and that rings true and

1421
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,720
everything you know i believe the lord

1422
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:53,119
created created everything that we see

1423
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:54,559
and it gives us the privilege and the

1424
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,200
blessing of actually uh encountering

1425
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,720
these things

1426
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,520
um what's next for me well the next four

1427
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:03,040
weeks are going to be

1428
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:06,000
very very uh eventful

1429
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,599
starting tomorrow

1430
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:10,079
at noon in pittsburgh city hall in

1431
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,480
pittsburgh illinois the southern

1432
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:14,000
illinois monster hunters will be

1433
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,760
partnering up with the crab orchard

1434
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:17,359
public library

1435
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,440
going and us doing their a part of the

1436
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,680
read beyond the beaten path tour that

1437
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,760
we're doing with all the local libraries

1438
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,599
here in southern illinois

1439
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:29,359
we will be giving our

1440
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:31,040
sasquatch and other cryptids of southern

1441
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,920
illinois lecture presentation

1442
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,960
there

1443
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,200
and that starts tomorrow at noon it's

1444
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,960
free to the public all of our lectures

1445
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:40,640
are free to the public

1446
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:45,599
and then here coming up uh next weekend

1447
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:49,440
on the 23rd we will be in gr

1448
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,400
grayville illinois outside of carmine at

1449
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,720
the groth memorial library at one

1450
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:57,359
o'clock in the afternoon uh doing the

1451
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,559
same thing

1452
00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:00,319
uh then

1453
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,160
july 24th

1454
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,799
uh me and my gospel quartet ribbon

1455
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:05,920
quartet

1456
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,839
we will be singing at my church walnut

1457
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:09,599
hill free will baptist church in crab

1458
00:58:14,030 --> 00:58:12,240
orchard illinois if you go to ribbon

1459
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,040
music

1460
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,720
ministries.org or find ribbon quartet on

1461
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,960
facebook you get all the information for

1462
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:20,400
that

1463
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,000
it's a free uh concert at the church uh

1464
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,760
love offering will be taken and

1465
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,599
everything and that will be having a

1466
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:30,160
potluck and it's like like we all

1467
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:33,200
jokingly say uh baptist uh

1468
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,280
symbol is a casserole dish

1469
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,839
so and all that it's like the old saying

1470
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,760
jesus spoke to more people when he fed

1471
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,799
him so that's what we're doing there

1472
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,920
um

1473
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:46,880
and then

1474
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:48,160
july

1475
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,720
30th we will be in glenn carbon illinois

1476
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:52,880
outside of edwardsville illinois doing

1477
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:55,839
another lecture and presenting uh there

1478
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,880
as well like in grayville and pittsburgh

1479
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,480
the hunt for the shawnee sasquatch

1480
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:02,240
documentary

1481
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,000
and then july 31st i will be uh

1482
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,640
uh preaching that sunday night

1483
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:10,880
at six o'clock at walnut hill freewall

1484
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,280
baptist church in crab orchard illinois

1485
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:15,760
um we may be going to the cryptid

1486
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:18,799
paranor up uh cryptid paracon

1487
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,760
and cape dorado missouri put on by

1488
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:24,160
michael huntington in august

1489
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,440
and then in october 8th of this year in

1490
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:29,760
harrisburg illinois we will be

1491
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:32,480
a part of for the second year

1492
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,040
of the shawnee sasquatch festival

1493
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:37,920
and we will be giving a lecture there

1494
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:40,160
and also be showing our documentary as

1495
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:41,040
well

1496
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,640
and you can buy copies of the

1497
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,799
documentary you can either order them

1498
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,480
from me personally

1499
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:48,559
or you can go and get them at the events

1500
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,079
we're going to be at come out meet us

1501
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,680
and

1502
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,520
you guys are more than

1503
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,359
welcome i invite everybody if you don't

1504
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,119
have a home church to come to walnut

1505
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:01,920
hill you know we're not judgmental we

1506
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,400
will welcome you with loving opening

1507
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:06,000
arms

1508
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,920
i want to do something

1509
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:08,720
uh

1510
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,880
would you come on camera for me please

1511
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:15,040
my friend i want to

1512
01:00:20,319 --> 01:00:23,910
hi everybody

1513
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,309
well you know i i would be mighty

1514
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:29,359
pressed if i didn't do this and um you

1515
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:30,319
know

1516
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,839
the lord's convicted me because i've

1517
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:33,599
been monitoring your facebook and i know

1518
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,640
you are calling on hard times

1519
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,040
but here's the thing i just i've never

1520
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:41,119
done this on a show

1521
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:43,280
but i want to pray for you right here

1522
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,280
and right now my friend

1523
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,760
well thank you i appreciate that

1524
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:49,839
heavenly father we come to you right now

1525
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,200
lord and i just lift uh my friend

1526
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,280
vincent up to you father

1527
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,160
you know what trouble he's in father and

1528
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:00,799
you know what stress he's under father i

1529
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,760
just go and i pray and i ask of you to

1530
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:05,359
bless this man

1531
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:08,799
abundantly ten times over father

1532
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:11,920
bless this man in some way shape or form

1533
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:12,880
with

1534
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:17,359
i ask you just to bless him

1535
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:20,160
give him comfort father and because we

1536
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,160
all know that through you all things are

1537
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:24,319
possible as long as we have faith

1538
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:26,319
because it says we are blessed are the

1539
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,119
ones who walk by faith and not by sight

1540
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:31,599
i ask you father just to go and surround

1541
01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:35,280
him and line with a a hedge of guardian

1542
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,280
angels and put the hand of protection

1543
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,040
over them father and comfort with

1544
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:40,960
whatever may be going on in their lives

1545
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:42,880
father i ask to you to work in their

1546
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,280
lives father i ask all this in your name

1547
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,280
and we thank you for sending your son

1548
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:49,839
who came and died on a cross

1549
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,480
over 2000 years ago father for us that

1550
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,240
we may have a way

1551
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:56,880
off of this earth father and have

1552
01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:58,640
something to look forward to other than

1553
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,160
a six foot hole in the ground and

1554
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:02,640
eternal separation from you i ask all

1555
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,359
this in your name father amen

1556
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:07,760
brother that's for you i love you guys

1557
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:10,480
that's because for all of you guys

1558
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,000
thanks zack you have a nice night buddy

1559
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:16,640
buddy thanks for coming on and uh i'm

1560
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,520
pretty sure we'll be in contact so uh

1561
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,440
tell your team thanks for me and uh

1562
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:24,000
we'll talk soon

1563
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,760
you all have a good night god bless

1564
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:27,520
every single one of you i love you all

1565
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:28,319
of you

1566
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,789
now if you have an unexplained encounter

1567
01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:37,839
or sighting

1568
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,280
feel free to contact me through the

1569
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:41,039
phantoms and monsters blog site i want

1570
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:42,319
to again thank

1571
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:45,520
zach uh start for uh for joining me this

1572
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:46,400
evening

1573
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:48,240
and thanks to each and all you for

1574
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:49,680
watching and chatting if you made a

1575
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,359
super chat donations uh thanks to jose

1576
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,280
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1577
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:57,039
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1578
01:03:01,270 --> 01:03:00,240
subscribe share and even comment on on

1579
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:01,280
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1580
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:03,839
uh if you have a sighting

1581
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,599
or an encounter report that you'd like

1582
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:07,440
to be considered for the personal report

1583
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,400
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1584
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:10,559
or just post it on fam samosa feel free

1585
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:13,119
to forward to my email at lawn stricker

1586
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,480
families and monsters dot com now we got

1587
01:03:21,029 --> 01:03:18,319
something different coming up this week

1588
01:03:24,309 --> 01:03:21,039
this coming wednesday

1589
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:24,319
i'm going to have a guest

1590
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:27,680
experiencer kenneth hopkins

1591
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:30,720
who will be on with me discussing mk

1592
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:32,000
ultra

1593
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:33,920
alien abduction mind control and

1594
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,920
military intervention should be a very

1595
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:37,520
interesting show

1596
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,319
uh and then next friday

1597
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:42,480
we will conduct another round table

1598
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:44,640
discussion this time

1599
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,359
we'll be discussing skin walkers

1600
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:49,839
and native american lore

1601
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:51,760
i don't have the uh i don't have the

1602
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,400
guest list in full yet but

1603
01:03:58,230 --> 01:03:56,000
we'll have that up very soon so it

1604
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,240
should be an interesting show so until

1605
01:04:12,020 --> 01:04:00,640
next week stay healthy and have a safe